• Treczoks@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Well, the LLM was prompted to find the odd one. Which I consider a (relatively) easy one. Reading the headline, I thought that the LLM was able to point this out by itself, like “Excuse me, but you had one sentence about pizza toppings in your text about programming. Was that intended to be there for some reason, or just a mistaken CTRL-V?”

  • elmtonic@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    me when the machine specifically designed to pass the turing test passes the turing test

    If you can design a model that spits out self-aware-sounding things after not having been trained on a large corpus of human text, then I’ll bite. Until then, it’s crazy that anybody who knows anything about how current models are trained accepts the idea that it’s anything other than a stochastic parrot.

    Glad that the article included a good amount of dissenting opinion, highlighting this one from Margaret Mitchell: “I think we can agree that systems that can manipulate shouldn’t be designed to present themselves as having feelings, goals, dreams, aspirations.”

    Cool tech. We should probably set it on fire.

    • Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems
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      4 months ago

      Despite the hype, from my admittedly limited experience I haven’t seen a chatbot that is anywhere near passing the turing test. It can seemingly fool people who want to be fooled but throw some non-sequiturs or anything cryptic and context-dependent at it and it will fail miserably.

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      4 months ago

      I agree, except with the first sentence.

      1. I don’t think a computer program has passed the Turing test without interpreting the rules in a very lax way and heavily stacking the deck in the bot’s favor.
      2. I’d be impressed if a machine does something hard even if the machine is specifically designed to do that. Something like proving the Riemann hypothesis or actually passing an honest version of Turing test.
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          7 hours ago

          Any of… what?

          Yea I don’t think the Turing test is that great for establishing genuine artificial intelligence, but I also maintain that current state of the art doesn’t even pass the Turing test to an intellectually honest standard and certainly didn’t in the 60s.

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    4 months ago

    As somebody said, and im loosely paraphrasing here, most of the intelligent work done by ai is done by the person interpreting what the ai actually said.

    A bit like a tarot reading. (but even those have quite a bit of structure).

    Which bothers me a bit is that people look at this and go ‘it is testing me’ and never seem to notice that LLMs don’t really seem to ask questions, sure sometimes there are related questions to the setup of the LLM, like the ‘why do you want to buy a gpu from me YudAi’ thing. But it never seems curious in the other side as a person. Hell, it won’t even ask you about the relationship with your mother like earlier AIs would. But they do see signs of meta progression where the AI is doing 4d level chess style things.

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      As somebody said, and im loosely paraphrasing here, most of the intelligent work done by ai is done by the person interpreting what the ai actually said.

      This is an absolutely profound take that I hadn’t seen before; thank you.