This is ridiclous

  • Zier@fedia.io
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    13 minutes ago

    Please don’t ever turn your computer off, it makes it really hard to spy on you. Thanks -Apple

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    2 hours ago

    Wait, WHAT?

    They put the powerbutton on the underside?

    For fuck sake Apple…

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      “Our new Mac Mini is so powerful, so extraordinary, you’ll never want to turn it off.” – Tim Apple, probably.

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      It’s very bad idea to put power button under the bottom, Who think the designer should need to be fired here

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        1 hour ago

        Wouldn’t surprise me if it was the same guy who put the charge port on the magic mouse on the bottom.

        That at least has a logical excuse if dumb as hell, this has zero reason to be like this

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      Uh how often are you having to power on your Mac mini? I think mines been off like twice last year.

      Having the power switch away from where I often blindly poke around to plug cables in, sounds like a good choice.

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        1 hour ago

        Damn, that is some amazing copium…

        They had a well established place for the powerbutton, why change it?

        As an IT guy, if I worked with Macs this would be terrible to work with

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          As an IT guy, if I worked with Macs this would be terrible to work with

          You know, now that you say it, I’d bet that’s exactly why they did it. They probably want to fuck over companies that would otherwise have racks of Mac Minis (for clusters, colocated servers, etc.) and force them into Mac Studios or Mac Pros instead.

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          Well first off if you look at the picture, this is a much smaller device. If the power switch was in the same place as the larger case it would be on the side edge.

          Secondly because it’s now moved into a space where it’s not going to be accidentally hit, and requires an intentional effort to press.

          That’s great, how many IT guys have to manually go around turning off hundreds of computers at the switch instead of running some automated method across the whole network? Such a rare and unlikely situation that the average home consumer and user of a device such as this really doesn’t ever have to factor in.

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            As another IT guy at a university, having to manually turn on 30 computers in a classroom for updates or whatever is already a pain in the ass. Wake on LAN is not a reliable solution. Havin to manually flip over every box, then putting them down, and then fixing the cables that got yanked… I’d throw those fuckers in the trash.

            The Dell Optiplex 3080 Micro’s form factor is perfectly tiny without compromising user comfort.

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              I have never bought an iPhone or a Mac and I agreed at first that this seems an extra step. But you surely wouldn’t have to flip it over? The device will be raised enough it appears that a finger could slide in the gap and hit that button. But maybe I don’t know shit or have slender fingers or something but feels like it could be operated without flipping.

              What am I missing?

              Still a daft design but yeah…

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                Mainly because our students are idiots and will complain if the computer doesn’t turn off. Or worse, take independent action and hold the power button, or actually yank the power cable. Maybe I should just lean into it and convince them that the monitor is the computer.

                Jokes aside, how could I implement such a policy? I’ve only found one that hides the power buttons from the start menu, but Windows still responds to ACPI.

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                  Why would they be idiots for wanting to turn these computers off?

                  If the computers aren’t running something important while not in use, I think they should turn them off as we’re already wasting far too much energy.

                  I might be missing something, but it sounds like leaving your car running or leaving lights on in your home the whole year.

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            it’s not going to be accidentally hit

            How often do you accidentally press a power button on a desktop computer? I don’t even do that on my laptop, where the power button is close to the keyboard.

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        Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. The only time I use the power button is when there is an issue which has been like 4 times in 3 years maybe? I think people complaining about the power button location have never worked with macOS and are used to shittier standby in other operating systems.

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          On the one hand, I agree. Apple has positioned their power buttons with the assumption that the devices wouldn’t be turned off very often for quite a while now. It was on the backside of the previous mac mini design and also on the backside of the 2013 trashcan mac pro, for example.

          That still doesn’t make it less annoying though. We use a lot of macs for work, including aforementioned mac minis and mac pros and we do turn them off regularly because there’s no need for them to use power 24/7. Having to turn them around to find the power button is just stupid. That’s form over function in its finest. But if you’re the type of person who never turns off their computer, obviously it doesn’t really matter.

          That’s not to say, that the new mac minis aren’t remarkable machines. The redesign was necessary and is very good in general. It’s a tiny powerhouse. They could’ve just chosen less of afterthought of a power button location.

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          I’ve never owned any Crapple stuff and never will, but even I can see from the thumbnail that the circular vent is lifting the whole unit off the desk, so slipping your finger under to switch it off is going to be a bit odd the first time, then you’ll instinctively know where the button is.

          We’ve been doing it with monitors for decades

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    I… uh… I know it’s going to be an unpopular opinion, but it makes sense. It’s not intended for daily usage - macs wake up on a keyboard or cursor movement. Sitting on the back increases the chance of accidental presses when you are trying to plug something in.

    You have a very few specific incidents where you would need to press the power button. 80% of their user base will not use the power button after the first initial press.

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      Standby pointlessly draws power. I switch off all devices that don’t run on battery for that reason. But I’m not exactly Apple’s target audience anyway since I also consider the price before buying stuff.

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    Why can’t they put the power button on the front where it belongs. It’s already stupid that they put it on the back, putting it on the bottom is downright idiotic. If they don’t want to mess up the oh so important Apple aesthetic just make it an invisible touch button or something. Apple hates usability.

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        15 minutes ago

        For you to put your nasty fingerprints all over it?? I don’t think so

        • Apple, probably
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      29 minutes ago

      Desktop macs (not tower macs) has had the powerbutton on the back for decades, it’s fine, bottom is shit though…

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        Back is already bullshit. We have a few trashcan mac pros at work and usually they’re just turned so all the cables stick out towards the user because then you can easily reach the power button. Which makes it look worse than just having a power button in an accessible place aka the front or the top in the first place.

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    1 hour ago

    It looks like you can push the button without lifting the tiny computer.

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      That would depend heavily on how accessible the computer is and how fat your fingers are. And I can tell you, mine are pretty fat.

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      I also at first thought it’s not that bad, because it looks like the main part of the computer is “hovering”, because it stands on that round portion. But then I saw that the button is on the backside! Why? That way you have to reach around everything, making it impossible to fit the thing into some smaller space and still use it. If it was on the bottom but in the front you would still have your beloved button-less design but the button would still be pretty accessible.

  • gibdos@lemmy.world
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    Well at least now you can actually see the damn black ports on the silver chassis. The M2 Mac Mini has the black ports on the black backside and it’s such a pain in the ass trying to find the USB C ports when I have to connect something.

    But yeah, putting the power button on the bottom is peak Apple stupidity.