• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    This is just basic psychology. It takes a long time to change someone’s political beliefs, and it isn’t effective to just argue with people, even with facts. Interestingly, one way to get people to change their opinion is to frame things in terms of how it affects them and their family.

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      8 months ago

      It took me…I’d say 2 years from being a full conservative to a left-leaning independent. And then another 2 years to being a moderate to progressive liberal.

      It does happen. But some people are so rooted in their political identity that they will never change.

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    8 months ago

    Marxist Leninists when they haven’t ignored 150 years of contemporary political science for sixteen microseconds

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        8 months ago

        Mostly the parts where autocracy doesn’t liberate the workers. Even temporarily.

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          8 months ago

          Every time I start to listen and learn from people more left than I am, they get to the part about how after revolution there’s probably going to be a period of autocratic rule that should then dissolve by the will of the people. Except none of them talk about plans to actually facilitate the transfer of power, or better yet, prove Lenin wrong by not going thru a period of more authoritarianism.

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            8 months ago

            And “communism has never been tried” is such a stupid word game.

            They tried to try. What happened, fellas? How’d it go?

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              8 months ago

              If anything, communism has been tried, but it’s never been achieved. A stateless, classless, currencyless society still sounds frickin awesome… But that’s not we’ve had :(

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            8 months ago

            Right, the massive gap in Marxist theory is, and has always been, workable statecraft.