The mistake is thinking everyone everywhere must be connected.
If 51% of people want to be on Facebook, or are so complacent and happy with their situation that they don’t feel like the corporate interests are screwing them then they are allowed to be there and be part of the majority.
I don’t want to be there and I won’t be, regardless. So at least 1 person will be there waiting on the Fediverse that we want where things are more distributed. I have a feeling that I am not alone and that the number of people like me out there is sufficient 5o guarantee that Facebook or any other corporate entity will not control the Fediverse.
This is true, but it doesn’t account for one of the major use cases of social media: connecting with specific people and groups you know IRL.
People are not fungible, and thus social networks are not fungible either. Social media lives and dies by the network effect.
This is less an issue for Lemmy as it is for Mastodon, I guess. But even so, Lemmy has yet to reach the point where you can find an active community on almost any niche subject, like you could on Reddit or Twitter. Hopefully we’ll reach that point eventually, and it would be a crying shame if it was then torn away by one dominant instance deciding to close up.
The other argument I’ve seen is technological … where the major corporation starts influencing the software to their advantage … over time enough software changes are made so that the ecosystem becomes dependent on those changes … developers keep getting nudged, encouraged or influenced to make changes or upgrades to accommodate corporates and their systems … then once enough changes have been implemented, the whole system becomes dominated and controlled by the corporates.
If they can’t achieve instant take over, they don’t mind playing the long game and slowly dissolving and eroding the fediverse over time.
Maybe this is already a thing, but it seems like allowing communities to be migrated from instance to instance would be a great thing for avoiding takeovers.
Hopefully we’ll reach that point eventually, and it would be a crying shame if it was then torn away by one dominant instance deciding to close up.
i see a ton of activity in both the development arena(client apps/servers) and content generation across (bots) the verse. im not convinced it has enough momentum but it just feels soo close to sustainable. my corner of the verse seems a bit dependent on the lemmys, but i dont think its forever.
i dont see the doom and gloom others do with metas instance. i see it as an off-ramp… the network communication required for metas users to be able to leave that old place behind and still communicate with their old friends.
The mistake is thinking everyone everywhere must be connected.
If 51% of people want to be on Facebook, or are so complacent and happy with their situation that they don’t feel like the corporate interests are screwing them then they are allowed to be there and be part of the majority.
I don’t want to be there and I won’t be, regardless. So at least 1 person will be there waiting on the Fediverse that we want where things are more distributed. I have a feeling that I am not alone and that the number of people like me out there is sufficient 5o guarantee that Facebook or any other corporate entity will not control the Fediverse.
This is true, but it doesn’t account for one of the major use cases of social media: connecting with specific people and groups you know IRL.
People are not fungible, and thus social networks are not fungible either. Social media lives and dies by the network effect.
This is less an issue for Lemmy as it is for Mastodon, I guess. But even so, Lemmy has yet to reach the point where you can find an active community on almost any niche subject, like you could on Reddit or Twitter. Hopefully we’ll reach that point eventually, and it would be a crying shame if it was then torn away by one dominant instance deciding to close up.
The other argument I’ve seen is technological … where the major corporation starts influencing the software to their advantage … over time enough software changes are made so that the ecosystem becomes dependent on those changes … developers keep getting nudged, encouraged or influenced to make changes or upgrades to accommodate corporates and their systems … then once enough changes have been implemented, the whole system becomes dominated and controlled by the corporates.
If they can’t achieve instant take over, they don’t mind playing the long game and slowly dissolving and eroding the fediverse over time.
Maybe this is already a thing, but it seems like allowing communities to be migrated from instance to instance would be a great thing for avoiding takeovers.
i see a ton of activity in both the development arena(client apps/servers) and content generation across (bots) the verse. im not convinced it has enough momentum but it just feels soo close to sustainable. my corner of the verse seems a bit dependent on the lemmys, but i dont think its forever.
i dont see the doom and gloom others do with metas instance. i see it as an off-ramp… the network communication required for metas users to be able to leave that old place behind and still communicate with their old friends.