Israel just finished bombing an Iranian embassy on foreign soil and killing senior Iranian officials, so this isn’t surprising. Iran is a problematic country, but bombing embassies has never been a great tactic.
Unless, of course, your plan is to draw Iran into a wider war. Which is what both Israel and the neocons have been gagging for, for years
Are the Israelis blood thirsty? Is this what you’re alleging to?
The conquering, genocidal government: yes
The people: I would have to ask each individual person
You get the shorter version of the answer I gave to the other person. The longer version might be relevant later.
If Israel is committing genocide (which is not), it’s the worst implementation of such policy. They could kill hundreds of thousands of people in a few days, and that never happened.
Also, you conveniently forgot to mention Hamas’ massacres on October 7th. That’s the only reason for the ground invasion.
And if you did that the world actually would step in.
If you do it slowly by starvation and fear tactics you can achieve your goals over time by them dying and fleeing
The ones in power sure are. They’re literally on a genocide spree right now killing tens of thousands of civilians indiscriminately for the crime of not being born Jewish.
It’s clear to me, based on what you’ve said, that you know nothing about Israelis (Arab and Jews), Jewish culture and history, Israeli politics (foreign and internal) and Middle East geopolitics.
How come you write with such confidence about something you know nothing about?
If Israel is committing genocide (which is not), it’s the worst implementation of such policy. They could kill hundreds of thousands of people in a few days, and that never happened.
Also, you conveniently forgot to mention Hamas’ massacres on October 7th. That’s the only reason for the ground invasion.
Dude they want plausible deniability, they want to have no responsibility in doing so. It’s pretty obvious what Israels goal is and has been for the last decades. Steal land, just look at the west bank or even a map.
You’ve been brainwashed by your own government to support Israel in it’s crime spree.
This is also relevant to you. You haven’t established any knowledge about any of those issues.
It’s clear to me, based on what you’ve said, that you know nothing about Israelis (Arab and Jews), Jewish culture and history, Israeli politics (foreign and internal) and Middle East geopolitics.
You are spewing out nonsense based on a false narrative. If you want to establish common ground based on actual facts, you are more than welcome.
It’s pretty obvious what Israels goal is and has been for the last decades. Steal land, just look at the west bank or even a map.
What facts, that Israel is expanding it’s illegal settlements?
It’s clear to me you know nothing about it. How can you write with such confidence about something you know nothing about?
They are committing a genocide before our eyes and the attack on Oct 7 does not give anyone the right to commit their own massacre or genocide.
You didn’t address this point.
If Israel is committing genocide (which is not), it’s the worst implementation of such policy. They could kill hundreds of thousands of people in a few days, and that never happened.
This is also relevant to you. You haven’t established any knowledge about any of those issues.
It’s clear to me, based on what you’ve said, that you know nothing about Israelis (Arab and Jews), Jewish culture and history, Israeli politics (foreign and internal) and Middle East geopolitics.
It is correct that 2 wrongs doesn’t make a right. And you still haven’t demonstrated that there are massacres or a genocide in Gaza committed by the IDF.
the attack on Oct 7 does not give anyone the right to commit their own massacre or genocide.
It’s common knowledge at this point that they are doing a genocide. The the words of the ICJ Israel should do everything to stop doing one
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-68097640
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240126-ord-01-00-en.pdf
The Court considers that, with regard to the situation described above, Israel must, in accordance with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, in relation to Palestinians in Gaza, take all measures within its power to prevent the commission of all acts within the scope of Article II of this Convention, in particular: (a) killing members of the group; (b) causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; © deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; and (d) imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group. The Court recalls that these acts fall within the scope of Article II of the Convention when they are committed with the intent to destroy in whole or in part a group as such (see paragraph 44 above). The Court further considers that Israel must ensure with immediate effect that its military forces do not commit any of the above-described act
Do you get paid per argument? You mentioned a lot of unrelated stuff lol
Why would anyone pay me? I’m just a random guy on the internet.
Do you get paid per argument?
All the things I’ve mentioned are relevant. Many people are talking out of their asses without knowing anything about this conflict. They don’t make the minimum effort to learn the basic things, they just follow the mob and reuse their words without understanding any of it. Some Israelis do it, some westerners do it, some arabs do it.
And all of these useful idiots are being manipulated by Islamists, radical left people, white supremacists.You mentioned a lot of unrelated stuff lol
Source?
One of a long history of Isreal and republicans screwing with Iran, https://www.thedailybeast.com/neocon-pundit-the-israel-lobby-wants-war-with-iran
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Iran going to FAFO just like your friends in Hamas did.
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This is what countries with nukes can do to countries without nukes. Thankfully no jihadistic countries have them yet, but Israel sure is giving them good reasons to get some.
Lol you guys do it all over and we have to eat it. Americans love jumping between sides so they don’t end up being the bad guys ever
They annually call for the destruction of Israel and burn an israeli flag. I wouldn’t put too much thought into their statements.
Also, keep in mind that “foreign soil” is a country that Israel is still technically at war with.
What would really happen is that they will get one of their proxies to fire more rockets or commit more terrorist attacks on Israel.
Oh no not the flag 😭
KEEP MY FLAG’S NAME OUTCHA MOUF! 🤚💥
How am I supposed to explain a burnt flag to my hypothetical children?
Here’s yesterday’s UN release regarding discussion of the event. “In the ensuing discussion, many delegations asserted that any attack on diplomatic and consular premises violates the Charter of the United Nations as well as the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. They also expressed grave concern that such an incident could further intensify the regional conflict.”
Then the usual countries supported/condemned Israel, but even those supporting Israel didn’t say it was ok to bomb embassies.
That same link at least properly condemns Iran and their proxies for the escalations leading to this.
Yes. Largely by the same countries who also insist Israel is conducting their war legally, but I won’t try to say their points are bad. I agree with criticizing Iran, but bombing embassies is not ok by international agreement. If rules of war only apply when convenient then they are useless, diplomatic immunity is a thing and consulates are not supposed to be targets of war.
Also, switch countries - imagine if North Korea bombed the US embassy in South Korea and killed visiting Pentagon generals. The outrage would be immense and it’s unlikely the world would accept the justification that North and South Korea are “technically at war” with each other and the US opposes North Korea.
I’ll remind you that north Korea is viewed more favorably in the UN than Israel if you go by number of condemnations annually. I’m talking pre oct 7th here.
Is that meant as a defense of Israel or…? What am I supposed to take from that aside from Israel should stop doing unethical things so regularly that even North Korea doesn’t get reprimanded as often? I’ll remind you in turn that North Korea didn’t -actually- bomb an embassy (so a condemnation wouldn’t make sense) - feel free to swap the countries in my comment to whichever you want. That was an analogy to showcase how if it wasn’t America’s lovechild breaking international law no one would even consider justifying it. It was also a direct rebuttal to your prior “they’re technically at war so it’s ok” argument. Israel actually did bomb an embassy of one country within the borders of another country.
Meanwhile American arms companies - “How much does it cost to get the friction burns off my cock from wanking so hard?!??!”
If you’re already harvesting all that sweet adrenochrome, might as well swap for the new penis, too, while the young guy is already on the table.
(jk)
Get ready, marines. You’re going to Iran within the year. Just waiting for them to take the bait. It’s all coming together.
And you want this why?
Welp, it was nice knowing you guys.
Imma be completely honest and say that Iran probably won’t do anything except maybe throw some cruise missiles from afar that hit some random outpost or send a drone because they don’t want to risk anything.
I’d love to see a competent air force take on the IAF, but I don’t think anyone in the middle east actually has one besides Israel and the USA’s own bases.
According to chatgpt, Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran, Egypt, Jordan, and Qatar have modern air forces, and countries not listed might still have them. It says Yemen, Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria don’t have one (also Libya so take with the usual grain of salt because that’s in North Africa and not even bordering the region like Egypt and Turkey).
that just gets you pre-emptively attacked by Israel… why would anybody do that…
“Read the room Iran!”
What’s good for the goose?
Couldn’t happen to a nicer country.
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Iran planned that IDF bombing embassies?
Good. This is war and Israel is the aggressor.
Are you willing to share what you’ve been smoking with the class?
If you have a problem with what I said, just say it directly.
Ok. You seem to be forgetting that the current open hostilities were kicked off by a large Hamas raid that resulted in hostages being taken.
The four possibilities are that you are stupid, brain damaged, are willfully ignoring recent events, or are high. I gave you the benefit of the doubt.
Why did Hamas attack Israel?
Also, personal insults don’t help your argument. They just make you look insecure and flustered.
I can tell you’re angry and that clouds your judgement.
I see the correct answer was “willful ignorance”. Serves me right for thinking you weren’t a propagandist.
So you have no actual answers and rely on insults?
It’s cute that you keep trying slugger!
Here’s an actual answer to a … let’s see … four day old post:
Hamas fucked around. Now they’re finding out.
Specifically, they’re finding out that using people in Gaza as meat shields only works as a deterrent when you don’t perform massive raids into Israel.
Now the only hope they have of not getting their shit kicked in permanently is utilizing propaganda networks to get “useful idiots” (that’s the actual, technical term used in intelligence communities) to put outside pressure on Israel to not hunt down each Hamas member individually.
That’s the gory, ugly reality of the situation in Gaza. While the civilians in Gaza are absolutely being victimized it’s hard not to blame the organization using them as human shields.
and when israel retaliates then cry out “genocide” and “ceasefire now”
fascists are nothing but crybabies
I mean, yes fascists are bullies who cry when they get hit back but history isn’t on the side you are picking. Israel is a far-right nation plagued by ideals of racial superiority and apartheid. They’ve been abusing Palestinians for many decades, creating the conditions that led to Oct. 7th (which I’m not trying to excuse, Hamas are awful). Speaking of Hamas, Netanyahu even kept Hamas in power as a matter of policy so as to divide Palestinians and keep them from statehood. Many Israelis place some blame on him for the current conflict. So you’re both right and wrong.
It’s important to remember that there are no ‘good guys’ in this whole shit show.
Iran was probably involved in the October 7th attacks. Some media even reported the IRGC claimed it was a reprisal for the death of Soleimani, although Hamas (and later Iran) denied it.
Just because the Israeli government is filled with Jewish supremacists and fascists, doesn’t mean the Iranian’s are the good guys. For example, they tortured and executed up to 30,000 political prisoners in 1988, a similar death toll to Israel’s in Gaza.
I’m fine with criticizing both, and agree there are no “good guys”. Iran is not some paragon of virtue, but then we’re finding out that few nations actually are - even those that loudly claim they are.
Can you guys please stop using forty to eighty year old atrocities to justify current ones please?
It makes it really really hard for me to pretend that y’all are actually bloodthirsty.
did you really post this trying to make Israel out to be the god guy lmao
They love to do that
yeah they really showed those thousands of dead children who was boss
No you fool this would be Iran retaliating. This would be Iran attacking a fascist regime currently engaged in a genocide.
How many times is Israel going to get away with indiscriminate murder and war crimes?
tell that to 50+ islamist states
And religion has what to do here?
Get a load of this hot air balloon of gaslighting.
Israel gets to kill humanitarian aid workers, civilian encampments, and embassies in other countries killing military generals.
And after all of that, it’s the people that warned something like this could happen. Well it is obviously their fault.
Enjoy your war with Iran, hope the nukes miss you. So you can enjoy your irradiated wasteland of a future.
You mean a genocide other than the genocide Israel is currently responsible for?
