• Zagorath@aussie.zone
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    4 months ago

    It’s easy for the rest of the world to do something about Japan’s whale killing. You send your ships out into the international waters where it was happening to protect the whales. (And, for what it’s worth, “the rest of the world” didn’t do all that much about it. Independent organisations did so in a legally grey act of essentially vigilantism.)

    It’s much, much harder to do something about what’s happening within a country’s own territorial boundaries.

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        4 months ago

        I mean, people certainly should do what they can, and those trying should be commended for tehir effort. It’s just that the ability to have any meaningful impact is inevitably going to be very limited, so you shouldn’t expect it to have much of an effect.

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            4 months ago

            It’s not an unpopular opinion. What’s unpopular is the idea that I as an Australian, or you as an American, can do anything meaningful to change this. Or even that our governments can. They can and should provide some political pressure (possibly in the form of not doing photoshoots with India’s Prime Minister*—which should frankly already be the case based on a whole host of other human rights abuses), but when a country has such a huge internal cultural issue, you can’t expect external pressure to actually fix the problem. That has to come from within.

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              4 months ago

              I’m very disappointed that this person deleted all of their comments because I am quite curious to know what bizarre arguments they were trying to make based on your responses.

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                4 months ago

                Genuinely, I’m also disappointed that @Mastengwe@lemm.ee deleted their comments. But not for the reason you might think.

                I have enormous respect for the argument they were presenting. It wasn’t one that I entirely agreed with, but it was coming from a good place, and honestly it helped me refine my own view and I ended up in a place that’s probably better than where I started. From memory, their tone might have been a little more argumentative than strictly necessary, but that’s hardly the worst thing in the world.

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                  4 months ago

                  Thank you for your words. I wasn’t trying to be argumentative at all, but what I was getting were what I believe to be excuses why it’s someone else’s problem.

                  And the mere idea of people downvoting me (I know they’re worthless internet points, but it’s the idea that it’s an unpopular opinion)- because I suggested someone maybe do something to pressure India into stopping or at least reducing this led me to think that leaving the discussion was the healthier of choices.

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                4 months ago

                I deleted them because I was getting beat up for suggesting that the world pay attention to, and maybe do something about the amount of women being raped in India.

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                  4 months ago

                  That is something that has the possibility of being immensely helpful, provided the cooperation of a substantial portion of the Indian population and the entirety of the Indian government. I truly wish there was something that could be done about from where I stand, but the problem is extremely ingrained and, in some ways, endemic to that culture.