• DreamButt@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    It should be legal on a national level to film any and all public service workers (while on the job)

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        9 months ago

        Great question! If it’s illegal to film a public servant then it is illegal to verify they are actually serving the public’s best interest. In particular if you catch a public servant performing amoral or otherwise corrupt behaviour there is no way to publicaly verify that. Further without explicit legal protections for things then it is easier for that action to be banned or otherwise made illegal. No protection is no protection. A corrupt public servant has a vested interest in misinterpreting law in order to prevent you from exposing them. Which is why Oklahoma’s ban on filming police is still bad even though it is framed under the guise of protecting police from harassment

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          9 months ago

          I don’t think broad brushstrokes are helpful here - regular people can be real assholes, and we need to balance a public servant’s individual right to privacy with the public’s right to transparency.

          Some jobs such as Police Officers, I have no qualms with filming while they’re in uniform or otherwise on-the-job. But I can also see how a blanket approval could backfire, e.g. some aggrieved person decides to stalk some poor guy who’s only job is to center divs on some government website, just because they find out he’s a government worker.

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            9 months ago

            I can see that but at the same time, there’s a difference between public servants doing their job in public versus just being an office worker working. I don’t think people are arguing that office workers need to be recorded by the public, as that would be quite weird. Although at the same time, people generally argue that police officers should be recorded, even by people in private, but I think that’s more due to the fact that they have authority that can be abused in ways that office workers simply aren’t able to.

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              9 months ago

              No we mean the office workers too, if they’re public servants. There’s an epidemic going on in the US right now of city employees withholding forms and public resources in favor of helping the police cover up their misconduct.

              Uncomfortable as though it may be, it’s necessary for accountability.

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                9 months ago

                I’m not sure that spying on office workers is a good idea, potentially even ones working remotely too. Not only would that not be illegal but ethically it feels wrong. I feel like people should be entitled to privacy when in their own home.

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                  9 months ago

                  I get the concern, believe me. If it weren’t absolutely necessary (IMO) I wouldn’t be suggesting it.

                  But doesn’t it feel ethically wrong that people are having their civil rights violated by corrupt city officials and their cohorts?

                  Think about what a difference body cams made for police conduct. It’s more difficult to abuse any power you hold when you can be held accountable for it

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    9 months ago

    Some cop was trying to use his position as a cop to get 5 free loaves of bread, and the bakery guy was like: “Hey person’s name get the camera, and post it titled ‘the police stealing from citizens’” and the cop was like : “yeah, uhh… escapes with his partner”.